About the SM-AD67

Regarding the compatibility of Shimano electronic derailleur front mechs and the SM-AD67, or rather
whether the support bolt makes contact
I received a comment saying
「With the SM-AD67, the 9000, 9070, and 6870 all equally don't contact the support bolt, right?」
so I quoted it as-is, but then I received a different comment from someone else saying
「I don't have the 6800, 9000, and 9070 on hand,
but the support bolts on the 6870 and 6770 do contact the SM-AD67.」
The latter person provided this with definitive photo evidence from their own bike,
and when I looked at it,
the support bolt was indeed making contact (meaning it's doing its job).

I wanted to get a clear resolution on this,
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so I got an SM-AD67 in stock.
Unlike the SM-AD79/90, the hole for the front mech fixing bolt
is positioned slightly lower, not at the height of the band and coaxial area.

This blog has a policy of「using self-taken photos as much as possible」
and「not casually linking to other people's blogs」
so I won't repost the photos I received as-is.
(But they were a huge help. Thank you so much!)

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↑This is a locally-sourced photo

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This is the FD-6770.
Looking at it again now, it's pretty big.

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Here's the support bolt.

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I've installed the SM-AD67.

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The support bolt is faintly visible,
but it's making proper contact with the band.

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Next I'll also install it on the FD-9070 and 6870.

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Starting with the 6870.
Here's where the support bolt is positioned.

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I've installed the AD-SM67.
The bolt is more visible than with the 6770,
but the support bolt is still making contact.

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From the side, the bolt isn't visible.

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Next is the 9070.

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It's almost identical to the 6770 and 6870.
The support bolt is faintly visible,
but it's definitely doing its job.

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To begin with, the band shape itself is
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definitely designed with the support bolt in mind.

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Also, the radius on the front mech band mounting area
is quite deep.
This is another point that recommends going with the dedicated part.
The FD-6870 manual says
「Please use bands SM-AD79/90/67」,
and I've now confirmed that whether it's 79/90 or 67, the support bolt makes contact.

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Next I'll do a similar verification with the mechanical FD-6800 direct-mount type.

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The support bolt is positioned slightly below the front mech fixing bolt axis —
which is about the same as the electronic type —
but the fore-aft position is further back on this one.

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When I installed the SM-AD67, the support bolt didn't make contact.
The person who left the initial comment probably
tested it on an FD-9000.

Based on my verification results,
both mechanical and electronic types have support bolts at roughly the same height, but differ in fore-aft position.
Because of this difference in fore-aft position, with the SM-AD67 and mechanical direct-mount front mechs,
the support bolt doesn't make contact.

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My reason for using the SM-AD90 with the FD-6770 the other day
was another reason entirely, and since it's confidential workshop info I can't write about it,
but I believe Shimano is doing this "knowingly"
because of a certain structural design detail that I'm into.
This is separate from the support bolt issue, so
of course there's nothing wrong with the FD-6770 and SM-AD67 combination.

To put it briefly, it has to do with the gear disengagement of the derailleur cage.

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