A little while back I did an inspection of the front and rear wheels on my first generation Bora Ultra WTO 33
(→here),
and I got a comment saying something like: "I think those are my wheels so I'm commenting.
I got these from a Canyon outlet.
The rear hub condition was pretty bad,
so I'm glad I got them inspected."
... Sorry about that, these happen to be the same wheels but this is a different situation.
Anyway, so here's the
first generation Bora Ultra WTO
that was bought from the Canyon outlet.
Let me start with the front wheel.
The preliminary centering was perfect.
As I always mention, the silver part of the hub axle
isn't flush with the black components
but sticks out slightly.
There were no issues with the hub bearing adjustment,
and while there was some fine lateral runout on both sides,
no centering drift occurred even after straightening it out.
Next up, the rear wheel makes an appearance.
This one has a Campagnolo N3W freebody,
unlike the one from the linked article at the beginning.
This one also has no bearing issues
The preliminary centering was spot-on,
it had more runout than the front wheel,
but just like the front, no centering drift
occurred after straightening it out.
The box was a bit oversized so
the rear wheel from Nomu-Lab Wheel #2
was also included in the shipment.
I've done a bit of maintenance on this one too.
It had a red sticker on it—
the kind where you can only have one per person.
Now for a different matter—
a different customer brought in the front and rear wheels
of a second generation Bora Ultra WTO 35.
They're brand new.
They came in Campagnolo factory cardboard boxes,
and since the customer came from Kyushu, I asked if they drove here.
But apparently they took a plane and train
and carried the box all the way here.
I asked if there was another reason to come to Osaka,
and they said they were just here to visit my shop and eat okonomiyaki before heading back.
The front wheel had centering drift of one sheet of paper,
the rear wheel had centering drift of two sheets of paper
and some minor lateral runout,
but I fixed them right in front of the customer so
I didn't take photos of the centering drift.
Here's a quote from the linked article at the beginning.
All the rim heights (33, 45, 60mm) of the first generation Bora WTO in rim brake and disc brake versions
and the 45 and 60 sizes of the first generation Bora Ultra WTO
have an inner rim width of 19mm,
but only the Ultra 33 has an inner width of 21mm.
The current second generation
has an inner width of 23mm
across all rim heights (35, 45, 60mm).
End quote
As for the first generation Bora Ultra WTO
(Ultra only comes in disc brake version),
I know the weight of spare rim bodies by themselves.
But since I haven't actually verified them myself,
I haven't written about it here.
The source is from someone at a distributor who knows Campagnolo better than anyone in Japan,
so it's reliable, but supposedly the 33 is 378g, the 45 is 407g, and the 60 is 461g.
Comparing the weights of the 33 and 45,
the 45 seems to have the best height-to-weight ratio,
but you need to keep in mind that only the 33 has a wider rim.
I don't like tires getting overly stretched, so
if I were to buy one, I'd go with the 33 for WTO,
or the 45 for Ultra WTO.
In the case of the second generation Bora WTO,
both WTO and Ultra WTO have
an inner width of 23mm across all rim heights.
And the 33 has been redesignated as 35.
And regarding the second generation rims, even though the rim width got wider,
the weight actually got lighter.
I don't know the weight of the rim body itself on this one,
but I did get a chance to weigh and compare
the actual wheel weights between the first generation 33 and second generation 35.
Important to note is that
the rear wheel freebody differs: first generation is Campagnolo N3W,
second generation is Shimano HG, and
↑the first generation, whether WTO or Ultra WTO,
has G3 in 8 groups for 24H
↑the second generation, only the Ultra WTO
has G3 in 7 groups for 21H,
which is another way it gets lighter.
My guess is that the first generation 33 rim
and the second generation 45 rim
probably weigh about the same.
I'm excluding the weight of the proprietary lockring.
After writing all this, honestly I didn't plan to tell you the results anyway.
↑wow this guy's got bad vibes
Sorrry for the wait! Please take a look at this image!
First generation Bora Ultra 33 front wheel!
Second generation Bora Ultra 35 front wheel!
First generation Bora Ultra 33 rear wheel!
By the way, this is the lockring weight!
Second generation Bora Ultra 35 rear wheel!
↑Stop it already!
(→here),
and I got a comment saying something like: "I think those are my wheels so I'm commenting.
I got these from a Canyon outlet.
The rear hub condition was pretty bad,
so I'm glad I got them inspected."
... Sorry about that, these happen to be the same wheels but this is a different situation.
Anyway, so here's the
first generation Bora Ultra WTO
that was bought from the Canyon outlet.
Let me start with the front wheel.
The preliminary centering was perfect.
As I always mention, the silver part of the hub axle
isn't flush with the black components
but sticks out slightly.
There were no issues with the hub bearing adjustment,
and while there was some fine lateral runout on both sides,
no centering drift occurred even after straightening it out.
Next up, the rear wheel makes an appearance.
This one has a Campagnolo N3W freebody,
unlike the one from the linked article at the beginning.
This one also has no bearing issues
The preliminary centering was spot-on,
it had more runout than the front wheel,
but just like the front, no centering drift
occurred after straightening it out.
The box was a bit oversized so
the rear wheel from Nomu-Lab Wheel #2
was also included in the shipment.
I've done a bit of maintenance on this one too.
It had a red sticker on it—
the kind where you can only have one per person.
Now for a different matter—
a different customer brought in the front and rear wheels
of a second generation Bora Ultra WTO 35.
They're brand new.
They came in Campagnolo factory cardboard boxes,
and since the customer came from Kyushu, I asked if they drove here.
But apparently they took a plane and train
and carried the box all the way here.
I asked if there was another reason to come to Osaka,
and they said they were just here to visit my shop and eat okonomiyaki before heading back.
The front wheel had centering drift of one sheet of paper,
the rear wheel had centering drift of two sheets of paper
and some minor lateral runout,
but I fixed them right in front of the customer so
I didn't take photos of the centering drift.
Here's a quote from the linked article at the beginning.
All the rim heights (33, 45, 60mm) of the first generation Bora WTO in rim brake and disc brake versions
and the 45 and 60 sizes of the first generation Bora Ultra WTO
have an inner rim width of 19mm,
but only the Ultra 33 has an inner width of 21mm.
The current second generation
has an inner width of 23mm
across all rim heights (35, 45, 60mm).
End quote
As for the first generation Bora Ultra WTO
(Ultra only comes in disc brake version),
I know the weight of spare rim bodies by themselves.
But since I haven't actually verified them myself,
I haven't written about it here.
The source is from someone at a distributor who knows Campagnolo better than anyone in Japan,
so it's reliable, but supposedly the 33 is 378g, the 45 is 407g, and the 60 is 461g.
Comparing the weights of the 33 and 45,
the 45 seems to have the best height-to-weight ratio,
but you need to keep in mind that only the 33 has a wider rim.
I don't like tires getting overly stretched, so
if I were to buy one, I'd go with the 33 for WTO,
or the 45 for Ultra WTO.
In the case of the second generation Bora WTO,
both WTO and Ultra WTO have
an inner width of 23mm across all rim heights.
And the 33 has been redesignated as 35.
And regarding the second generation rims, even though the rim width got wider,
the weight actually got lighter.
I don't know the weight of the rim body itself on this one,
but I did get a chance to weigh and compare
the actual wheel weights between the first generation 33 and second generation 35.
Important to note is that
the rear wheel freebody differs: first generation is Campagnolo N3W,
second generation is Shimano HG, and
↑the first generation, whether WTO or Ultra WTO,
has G3 in 8 groups for 24H
↑the second generation, only the Ultra WTO
has G3 in 7 groups for 21H,
which is another way it gets lighter.
My guess is that the first generation 33 rim
and the second generation 45 rim
probably weigh about the same.
I'm excluding the weight of the proprietary lockring.
After writing all this, honestly I didn't plan to tell you the results anyway.
↑wow this guy's got bad vibes
Sorrry for the wait! Please take a look at this image!
First generation Bora Ultra 33 front wheel!
Second generation Bora Ultra 35 front wheel!
First generation Bora Ultra 33 rear wheel!
By the way, this is the lockring weight!
Second generation Bora Ultra 35 rear wheel!
↑Stop it already!